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Bava Kamma
Daf 32bבּוֹאוּ וְנֵצֵא לִקְרָאת כַּלָּה מַלְכְּתָא. וְאָמְרִי לָהּ: לִקְרַאת שַׁבָּת כַּלָּה מַלְכְּתָא. רַבִּי יַנַּאי מִתְעַטֵּף וְקָאֵי, וְאָמַר: בּוֹאִי כַלָּה, בּוֹאִי כַלָּה.
Come and let us go out
מתני׳ הַמְבַקֵּעַ בִּרְשׁוּת הָרַבִּים וְהִזִּיק בִּרְשׁוּת הַיָּחִיד, בִּרְשׁוּת הַיָּחִיד וְהִזִּיק בִּרְשׁוּת הָרַבִּים, בִּרְשׁוּת הַיָּחִיד וְהִזִּיק בִּרְשׁוּת הַיָּחִיד אַחֵר – חַיָּיב.
With regard to one who was chopping wood
גמ׳ וּצְרִיכָא; דְּאִי תְּנָא הַמְבַקֵּעַ בִּרְשׁוּת הַיָּחִיד וְהִזִּיק בִּרְשׁוּת הָרַבִּים – מִשּׁוּם דִּשְׁכִיחִי רַבִּים, אֲבָל מֵרְשׁוּת הָרַבִּים לִרְשׁוּת הַיָּחִיד דְּלָא שְׁכִיחִי רַבִּים – אֵימָא לָא.
The Gemara comments: And it is necessary for the mishna to teach that he is liable in all these cases because in each one there is a novel element. As if it had taught only the case of one who was chopping wood in his private property and caused damage in the public domain, it might have been reasoned that he is liable, despite the fact that he was working in his private property, because it is common for the multitudes to be there. But if a chip flew from the public domain to another person’s private property, where it is not common for the multitudes to be, one might say that he is not liable. Therefore, it is necessary to teach this case as well.
וְאִי תְּנָא מֵרְשׁוּת הָרַבִּים לִרְשׁוּת הַיָּחִיד – מִשּׁוּם דְּמֵעִיקָּרָא שֶׁלֹּא בִּרְשׁוּת עָבֵיד, אֲבָל מֵרְשׁוּת הַיָּחִיד לִרְשׁוּת הָרַבִּים דְּבִרְשׁוּת עָבֵיד – אֵימָא לָא.
And conversely, if it had taught that he is liable where the chip flew from the public domain to another’s private property, it might have been reasoned that he is liable because at the outset he was acting without permission by chopping wood in the public domain. But if it flew from his private property to the public domain, since he was acting with permission by chopping wood in his private property, one might say that he is not liable. Therefore, it is necessary to teach both cases.
וְאִי תְּנָא הָנָךְ תַּרְתֵּי – הָא מִשּׁוּם דִּשְׁכִיחִי רַבִּים וְהָא מִשּׁוּם דְּשֶׁלֹּא בִּרְשׁוּת, אֲבָל מֵרְשׁוּת הַיָּחִיד לִרְשׁוּת הַיָּחִיד אַחֵר, דְּלָא שְׁכִיחִי רַבִּים וּמֵעִיקָּרָא בִּרְשׁוּת – אֵימָא לָא, צְרִיכָא.
And if the mishna had taught only that he is liable in these two cases, it might have been reasoned that in this case, where the damage was caused in the public domain, he is liable because it is common for the multitudes to be there, and in that case, where he was chopping in the public domain, he is liable because he was acting without permission. But in the last case, where the chip flew from his private property to another’s private property, where neither of the above reasons applies, as it is not common for the multitudes to be in the place where the damage was caused and he was acting with permission at the outset, one might say he is not liable. Therefore, it is necessary for the mishna to teach all these cases.
תָּנוּ רַבָּנַן: הַנִּכְנָס לְחָנוּתוֹ שֶׁל נַגָּר שֶׁלֹּא בִּרְשׁוּת, וְנִתְּזָה בְּקַעַת וְטָפְחָה עַל פָּנָיו וּמֵת – פָּטוּר, וְאִם נִכְנָס בִּרְשׁוּת – חַיָּיב.
§ The Sages taught (Tosefta 6:25): With regard to one who entered the workshop of a carpenter without the latter’s permission, and a chip of wood flew off and hit him in the face and he died, the carpenter is exempt.
מַאי חַיָּיב? אָמַר רַבִּי יוֹסֵי בַּר חֲנִינָא: חַיָּיב בְּאַרְבָּעָה דְּבָרִים וּפָטוּר מִגָּלוּת,
The Gemara asks: What does the baraita mean when it rules that the carpenter is liable? Rabbi Yosei bar Ḥanina says: If the other person was injured, he is liable to pay four types of indemnity
לְפִי שֶׁאֵין דּוֹמֶה לַיַּעַר, יַעַר – זֶה לִרְשׁוּתוֹ נִכְנָס וְזֶה לִרְשׁוּתוֹ נִכְנָס, זֶה – לִרְשׁוּת חֲבֵירוֹ נִכְנָס.
The Gemara explains that he is exempt because this case is not similar to the case of a forest, which is the archetypal case stated in the Torah requiring one who kills unintentionally to be exiled, as it is written: “As when a man goes into the forest with his neighbor to chop wood, and his hand fetches a stroke with the axe to cut down the tree, and the head slips off the helve, and finds his neighbor, and he dies” (Deuteronomy 19:5). This is because in the case of the forest, both this one entered his domain and that one entered his domain, as anyone may use the public domain, whereas in this case, the victim entered another’s property. Therefore, the carpenter is not exiled.
אֲמַר רָבָא, קַל וָחוֹמֶר: וּמַה יַּעַר, זֶה לְדַעְתּוֹ נִכְנָס וְזֶה לְדַעְתּוֹ נִכְנָס, נַעֲשָׂה כְּמִי שֶׁנִּכְנָס לְדַעַת חֲבֵירוֹ וְגוֹלֶה, זֶה שֶׁלְּדַעַת חֲבֵירוֹ נִכְנָס – לֹא כָּל שֶׁכֵּן?
Rava said: On the contrary; it can be inferred a fortiori that he is exiled. And if in the case of the forest, where this one entered of his own accord and that one entered of his own accord, neither asking for the other’s permission, nevertheless the victim is considered like one who entered with the other’s consent and therefore the one who kills unintentionally is exiled, all the more so is it not clear that in this case, where the victim entered another’s workshop with his consent, the carpenter should be exiled?
אֶלָּא אֲמַר רָבָא: מַאי פָּטוּר מִגָּלוּת – דְּלָא סַגִּי לֵיהּ בְּגָלוּת, וְהַיְינוּ טַעֲמָא דְּרַבִּי יוֹסֵי בַּר חֲנִינָא, מִשּׁוּם דְּהָוֵי לֵיהּ שׁוֹגֵג קָרוֹב לְמֵזִיד.
Rather, Rava said: What is the reason he is exempt from exile? As exile is not sufficient for him,
מְתִיב רָבָא: הוֹסִיף לוֹ רְצוּעָה אַחַת וּמֵת – הֲרֵי זֶה גּוֹלֶה עַל יָדוֹ. וְהָא הָכָא דְּשׁוֹגֵג קָרוֹב לְמֵזִיד הוּא, דְּאִיבָּעֵי אַסּוּקֵי אַדַּעְתֵּיהּ דְּמָיְיתֵי אֱינָשֵׁי בַּחֲדָא רְצוּעָה, וְקָתָנֵי: הֲרֵי זֶה גּוֹלֶה! אֲמַר רַב שִׁימִי מִנְּהַרְדְּעָא: דְּטָעֵי בְּמִנְיָנָא.
Rava raises an objection to his own explanation from a mishna: If one is sentenced to be flogged in court and the doctors assessed that he would be able to endure only a certain number of lashes, but the one administering the lashes added one lash to his punishment
טְפַח לֵיהּ רָבָא בְּסַנְדָּלֵיהּ, אֲמַר לֵיהּ: אַטּוּ הוּא מָנֵי? וְהָתַנְיָא: גָּדוֹל שֶׁבַּדַּיָּינִין קוֹרֵא, וְהַשֵּׁנִי מוֹנֶה, וְהַשְּׁלִישִׁי אוֹמֵר ״הַכֵּהוּ״!
Rava slapped Rav Shimi on his sandal, a gesture of disparagement, and said to him: Is that to say that the one administering the lashes is the one who counts them? But isn’t it taught in a baraita that the eldest of the judges
אֶלָּא אֲמַר רַב שִׁימִי מִנְּהַרְדְּעָא: דְּטָעָה דַּיָּינָא גּוּפֵיהּ.
Rather, Rav Shimi of Neharde’a said: It is a case where the judge himself erred
מֵיתִיבֵי: הַזּוֹרֵק אֶת הָאֶבֶן לִרְשׁוּת הָרַבִּים וְהָרַג – הֲרֵי זֶה גּוֹלֶה. וְהָא הָכָא דְּשׁוֹגֵג קָרוֹב לְמֵזִיד הוּא, דְּאִיבָּעֵי לֵיהּ אַסּוּקֵי אַדַּעְתֵּיהּ דְּבִרְשׁוּת הָרַבִּים שְׁכִיחִי אֱינָשֵׁי, וְקָתָנֵי: הֲרֵי זֶה גּוֹלֶה!
The Gemara raises an objection from another mishna: With regard to one who throws a stone into the public domain
אֲמַר רַב שְׁמוּאֵל בַּר יִצְחָק: בְּסוֹתֵר אֶת כּוֹתְלוֹ.
Rav Shmuel bar Yitzḥak said: It is not a case where one threw a stone into the public domain for no purpose, but rather where he demolishes his wall, which borders on the public domain, and stones fall into the public domain. Therefore, it is not considered to be approaching intentional manslaughter.
אִיבָּעֵי לֵיהּ עִיּוּנֵי! בְּסוֹתֵר בַּלַּיְלָה.
The Gemara questions this assertion: Nevertheless, he should have paid attention to see if there was anyone there, and therefore it should be considered an unintentional killing that approaches intentional manslaughter. The Gemara answers: It is a case where he demolishes the wall at night.
בַּלַּיְלָה נַמִי אִיבָּעֵי לֵיהּ עִיּוּנֵי! בְּסוֹתֵר אֶת כּוֹתְלוֹ בַּיּוֹם לָאַשְׁפָּה.
The Gemara asks: Even at night, he should also have paid attention to see if there was anyone there. The Gemara suggests an alternative interpretation: It is a case where he demolishes his wall during the day into a garbage dump,
הַאי אַשְׁפָּה הֵיכִי דָּמֵי? אִי דִּשְׁכִיחִי רַבִּים – מֵזִיד הוּא, וְאִי לָא שְׁכִיחִי רַבִּים – אָנוּס הוּא!
The Gemara asks: What are the circumstances of this garbage dump? If it is a garbage dump where the multitudes are commonly found, it is considered intentional manslaughter. And if the multitudes are not commonly found there, he should be considered not only one who kills unintentionally, but a victim of circumstances beyond his control, since he could not have anticipated that someone would be there. Therefore, he should be exempt from exile.
אֲמַר רַב פַּפָּא: [לָא צְרִיכָא, אֶלָּא] בְּאַשְׁפָּה הָעֲשׂוּיָה לְהִפָּנוֹת בַּלַּיְלָה וְאֵינָהּ עֲשׂוּיָה לְהִפָּנוֹת בַּיּוֹם, וְאִיכָּא דְּמִיקְרֵי וְיָתֵיב. מֵזִיד לָא הָוֵי – דְּהָא אֵינָהּ עֲשׂוּיָה לְהִפָּנוֹת בַּיּוֹם, אָנוּס נַמִי לָא הָוֵי – דְּהָא אִיכָּא דְּמִיקְרֵי וְיָתֵיב.
Rav Pappa said: This halakha is necessary only in the case of a garbage dump where people are given to relieve themselves at night
רַב פַּפָּא מִשְּׁמֵיהּ דְּרָבָא מַתְנֵי לָהּ אַרֵישָׁא: הַנִּכְנָס לְחָנוּתוֹ שֶׁל נַגָּר שֶׁלֹּא בִּרְשׁוּת, וְנִתְּזָה לוֹ בְּקַעַת וְטָפְחָה לוֹ עַל פָּנָיו וּמֵת – פָּטוּר. אָמַר רַבִּי יוֹסֵי בַּר חֲנִינָא: חַיָּיב בְּאַרְבָּעָה דְּבָרִים וּפָטוּר מִגָּלוּת.
Rav Pappa taught in the name of Rava that this aforementioned statement of Rabbi Yosei bar Ḥanina is in reference not to the latter clause of the baraita but is in reference to the first clause: With regard to one who enters the workshop of a carpenter
מַאן דְּמַתְנֵי לָהּ אַסֵּיפָא – כָּל שֶׁכֵּן אַרֵישָׁא, וּמַאן דְּמַתְנֵי לָהּ אַרֵישָׁא, אֲבָל אַסֵּיפָא, כֵּיוָן דְּבִרְשׁוּת – חַיָּיב גָּלוּת.
The Gemara comments: With regard to the one who teaches this statement in reference to the last clause of the baraita, where one enters with permission, all the more so would he teach it in reference to the first clause, where one enters without permission. But the one who teaches this statement in reference to the first clause teaches it only in reference to that clause. But in the case of the last clause, since he entered with permission the carpenter is liable to go into exile.
וּמִי חַיָּיב גָּלוּת? וְהָתַנְיָא: הַנִּכְנָס לְחָנוּתוֹ שֶׁל נַפָּח, וְנִתְּזָה נִיצוֹצוֹת וְטָפְחָה לוֹ עַל פָּנָיו וּמֵת – פָּטוּר, וַאֲפִילּוּ נִכְנָס בִּרְשׁוּת!
The Gemara asks: But is he liable to go into exile when the victim had permission to enter? But isn’t it taught in a baraita that with regard to one who enters the workshop of a welder, and sparks [nitzotzot]
הָכָא בְּמַאי עָסְקִינַן – בְּשׁוּלְיָא דְּנַפָּחֵי. שׁוּלְיָא דְּנַפָּחֵי לְמִקְטְלָא קָאֵי? כְּשֶׁרַבּוֹ מְסַרְהֵב בּוֹ לָצֵאת וְאֵינוֹ יוֹצֵא.
The Gemara answers: With what are we dealing here, in this baraita? We are dealing with the welder’s apprentice who enters his workshop. The Gemara asks: Does the welder’s apprentice stand to be killed, i.e., is it permitted to kill him? The Gemara answers: It is a case where his mentor is urging him to leave, and he does not leave.
וּמִשּׁוּם דְּרַבּוֹ מְסַרְהֵב בּוֹ לָצֵאת, לְמִיקְטְלֵיהּ קָאֵי? כְּסָבוּר יָצָא. אִי הָכִי, אַחֵר נַמִי!
The Gemara asks: And because his mentor is urging him to leave, does he stand to be killed? The welder should be careful until his apprentice leaves. The Gemara answers: The welder thought that he had already left when the accident happened. The Gemara asks: If so, why establish that the baraita refers specifically to an apprentice? The welder would be exempt if it were any other person also.