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Bava Kamma
Daf 41aהֵיכָא דִּבְדַק צוֹר וְשָׁחַט בּוֹ, דַּעֲבָדֵיהּ כְּעֵין סְקִילָה. אֲבָל הֵיכָא דְּשַׁחֲטֵיהּ בְּסַכִּין – לָא!
only in a case where he checked a sharp piece of flint,
אָמְרִי: אַטּוּ סַכִּין כְּתִיבָא בְּאוֹרַיְיתָא? וְהָתְנַן: הַשּׁוֹחֵט בְּמַגַּל יָד, בְּצוֹר, וּבְקָנֶה – שְׁחִיטָתוֹ כְּשֵׁירָה!
The Sages said in response: Is that to say that it is written in the Torah that slaughter must performed specifically with a knife, which would justify a distinction between slaughtering with a stone and a knife? But didn’t we learn in the mishna (Ḥullin 15b): With regard to one who slaughters with a hand-sickle,
וְהָשְׁתָּא דְּנָפְקָא לֵיהּ אִיסּוּר אֲכִילָה וְאִיסּוּר הֲנָאָה מִ״לֹא יֵאָכֵל אֶת בְּשָׂרוֹ״, ״בַּעַל הַשּׁוֹר נָקִי״ לָמָּה לִי? לַהֲנָאַת עוֹרוֹ. דְּסָלְקָא דַּעְתָּךְ אָמִינָא: בְּשָׂרוֹ הוּא דְּאָסוּר בַּהֲנָאָה, עוֹרוֹ נִשְׁתְּרֵי בַּהֲנָאָה, קָמַשְׁמַע לָן ״בַּעַל הַשּׁוֹר נָקִי״.
The Gemara asks: And according to Rabbi Abbahu, now that he derives the prohibition of eating and the prohibition of deriving benefit from the verse “Its flesh shall not be eaten,” why do I require the statement: “The owner of the ox shall be clear”? The Gemara answers: This is stated to prohibit deriving benefit from its hide
וּלְהָנָךְ תַּנָּאֵי דְּמַפְּקִי לֵיהּ לְהַאי ״בַּעַל הַשּׁוֹר נָקִי״ לִדְרָשָׁה אַחֲרִינָא [כִּדְבָעֵינַן לְמֵימַר קַמָּן], הֲנָאַת עוֹרוֹ מְנָא לְהוּ?
The Gemara asks: And according to those tanna’im who expound this verse: “The owner of the ox shall be clear,” for another interpretation, as we wish to state below, from where do they derive this prohibition against deriving benefit from the ox’s hide?
נָפְקָא לְהוּ מֵ״אֶת בְּשָׂרוֹ״ – אֶת הַטָּפֵל לִבְשָׂרוֹ, מַאי נִיהוּ? עוֹרוֹ.
The Gemara answers: They derive it from the wording: “Its flesh may not be eaten [velo ye’akhel et besaro].” The verse could have been formulated: Velo ye’akhel besaro, which already means: And its flesh shall not be eaten. The addition of the word “ et ” teaches that the prohibition applies also to that which is secondary to the flesh. And what is that? That is its hide.
וְהַאי תַּנָּא ״אֶת״ לָא דָּרֵישׁ,
The Gemara adds: And this tanna, who derives it from the statement: “The owner of the ox shall be clear,” does not interpret the word “ et ” as a means to derive new halakhot. He considers the word “ et ” to be an ordinary part of the sentence structure and not a source for exegetical exposition.
כִּדְתַנְיָא: שִׁמְעוֹן הָעֲמָסוֹנִי, וְאָמְרִי לָהּ נְחֶמְיָה הָעֲמָסוֹנִי, הָיָה דּוֹרֵשׁ כָּל ״אֶתִּין״ שֶׁבַּתּוֹרָה, כֵּיוָן שֶׁהִגִּיעַ לְ״אֶת ה׳ אֱלֹהֶיךָ תִּירָא״ פֵּירַשׁ; אָמְרוּ לוֹ תַּלְמִידָיו: רַבִּי, כָּל ״אֶתִּין״ שֶׁדָּרַשְׁתָּ מַה תְּהֵא עֲלֵיהֶן? אָמַר לָהֶם: כְּשֵׁם שֶׁקִּבַּלְתִּי שָׂכָר עַל הַדְּרִישָׁה, כָּךְ קִבַּלְתִּי שָׂכָר עַל הַפְּרִישָׁה;
As it is taught in a baraita: Shimon HaAmasoni, and some say that it was Neḥemya HaAmasoni,
עַד שֶׁבָּא רַבִּי עֲקִיבָא וְלִימֵּד: ״אֶת ה׳ אֱלֹהֶיךָ תִּירָא״ – לְרַבּוֹת תַּלְמִידֵי חֲכָמִים.
The word “ et ” in this verse was not explained until Rabbi Akiva came and expounded: “You shall fear the Lord your God”: The word “ et ” serves to include Torah scholars,
תָּנוּ רַבָּנַן: ״וּבַעַל הַשּׁוֹר נָקִי״ – רַבִּי אֱלִיעֶזֶר אוֹמֵר: נָקִי מֵחֲצִי כוֹפֶר;
§ The Sages taught with regard to the verse: “But the owner of the ox shall be clear,” that Rabbi Eliezer says: It means that he shall be clear from paying half a ransom.
אָמַר לוֹ רַבִּי עֲקִיבָא: וַהֲלֹא הוּא עַצְמוֹ אֵין מִשְׁתַּלֵּם אֶלָּא מִגּוּפוֹ, הָבִיאֵהוּ לְבֵית דִּין וִישַׁלֵּם לְךָ!
Rabbi Akiva said to him: Why is it necessary for the verse to teach this? But isn’t compensation for damage caused by an innocuous ox itself anyway paid only from the value of its body? Here too, its owner can say to the claimant: Bring it to court and it will pay you, i.e., you will be paid from its value. Since the ox is stoned, there is nothing from which he can receive payment. Therefore, according to your interpretation, the verse does not introduce any halakha that could not have been inferred by logic, and is therefore superfluous.
אָמַר לוֹ רַבִּי אֱלִיעֶזֶר: כָּךְ אֲנִי בְּעֵינֶיךָ, שֶׁדִּינִי בְּזֶה שֶׁחַיָּיב מִיתָה? אֵין דִּינִי אֶלָּא כְּשֶׁהֵמִית אֶת הָאָדָם עַל פִּי עֵד אֶחָד אוֹ עַל פִּי בְעָלִים.
Rabbi Eliezer said to him: Is this how I appear in your eyes, that my derivation from the verse is in reference to this case, that of an ox that is liable to be put to death? Obviously no verse would be required to teach this halakha in such a case. My derivation is only with regard to a case where the assumption that the ox killed a person is based on the testimony of one witness, or is based on the admission of the owner. Such proof is not sufficient for the ox to be put to death by stoning, but one might have thought that it is sufficient to require its owner to pay ransom.
עַל פִּי בְעָלִים, מוֹדֶה בִּקְנָס הוּא!
The Gemara asks: If it is based on the admission of the owner, he clearly would not be liable to pay ransom, since he would be admitting to an act that results in a fine,
קָסָבַר: כּוּפְרָא כַּפָּרָה.
The Gemara answers: Rabbi Eliezer holds that ransom is for the purpose of atonement, and is not considered a fine. Accordingly, one might have assumed that even in a case where there is not conclusive testimony, the owner must pay ransom to atone for the killing. Therefore, the verse states that in the case of an innocuous ox, the owner is not liable to pay half a ransom.
תַּנְיָא אִידָךְ, אָמַר לוֹ רַבִּי אֱלִיעֶזֶר: עֲקִיבָא, כָּךְ אֲנִי בְּעֵינֶיךָ, שֶׁדִּינִי בְּזֶה שֶׁחַיָּיב מִיתָה? אֵין דִּינִי אֶלָּא בְּמִתְכַּוֵּון לַהֲרוֹג אֶת הַבְּהֵמָה – וְהָרַג אֶת הָאָדָם, לְגוֹי – וְהָרַג יִשְׂרָאֵל, לִנְפָלִים – וְהָרַג בֶּן קַיָּימָא.
It is taught in another baraita that Rabbi Eliezer said to him: Akiva, is this how I appear in your eyes, that my derivation from the verse is in reference to this case, that of an ox that is liable to be put to death? My derivation is only with regard to a case where the ox intended to kill an animal but killed a person instead; or where it intended to kill a gentile but killed a Jew; or where it intended to kill a non-viable baby but killed a viable person. An ox is not put to death if it intended to gore in a manner which would not render it liable to be put to death, even if it did gore in such a manner. In such a case, the owner of the ox must pay ransom. Therefore, the verse states that if it is an innocuous ox, the owner is exempt from paying half a ransom.
הֵי אֲמַר לֵיהּ בְּרֵישָׁא? רַב כָּהֲנָא מִשְּׁמֵיהּ דְּרָבָא אֲמַר: ״מִתְכַּוֵּון״ אֲמַר לֵיהּ בְּרֵישָׁא. רַב טַבְיוּמֵי מִשְּׁמֵיהּ דְּרָבָא אֲמַר: ״הֵמִית״ אֲמַר לֵיהּ בְּרֵישָׁא.
These two baraitot cite different responses that Rabbi Eliezer gave Rabbi Akiva. Which one of these explanations did he say to him first? Rav Kahana said in the name of Rava: He first said to him the explanation referring to the ox’s intention to kill someone for which it would not be liable to be put to death, and subsequently gave him the second explanation with regard to the testimony of a single witness, or the owner’s admission. Rav Tavyumei said in the name of Rava: He first said to him the explanation that it is a case where the assumption that the ox killed was based on one witness or its owner’s admission.
רַב כָּהֲנָא מִשְּׁמֵיהּ דְּרָבָא אֲמַר: ״מִתְכַּוֵּון״ אֲמַר לֵיהּ בְּרֵישָׁא. מָשָׁל לְצַיָּד שֶׁשּׁוֹלֶה דָּגִים מִן הַיָּם,
The Gemara explains the reasoning behind the two opinions: Rav Kahana said in the name of Rava that first he said to him the explanation involving the ox’s intention, since this opinion is preferable to the other one, against which a difficulty was raised earlier. This is analogous to a fisherman pulling fish from the sea.