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Daf 52b

לְרַבָּנַן הוּכְפְּלָה לְבוֹנָתוֹ אוֹ לֹא? מִי אָמְרִינַן, מִתּוֹךְ שֶׁהוּכְפְּלָה סָלְתּוֹ – הוּכְפְּלָה לְבוֹנָתוֹ, אוֹ דִּילְמָא מַאי דְּגַלֵּי – גַּלֵּי, מַאי דְּלָא גַּלֵּי – לָא גַּלֵּי?

according to the Rabbis, who hold that generally one handful of frankincense is divided between the morning and afternoon offerings, is the amount of frankincense doubled or not? Do we say that since in this case its fine flour is doubled, as a complete tenth of an ephah of fine flour is sacrificed in both the morning and evening, its frankincense is also doubled? Or perhaps that which the verse reveals, i.e., that a complete tenth of an ephah is sacrificed in the morning and afternoon, it reveals, and that which it does not reveal, it does not reveal; and therefore, since the verse does not indicate that the amount of frankincense is doubled, only one handful is brought.

RASHI

לרבנן הוכפלה לבונתו שיביא קומץ שחרית וקומץ בערב דבשלמא לאבא יוסי לא מבעיא ליה דלא הוכפל שיביא שני קמצים לכל הקטרה דלא מצינו ב׳ קמצים בהקטרה אחת:

מאי דגלי גלי סלת גלי קרא בהוספה כדאמרינן לעיל (מנחות דף נא:) לרבי יהודה מאותה ולר״ש מכליל תקטר:

TOSAFOT

לרבנן הוכפלה לבונתו אבל לאבא יוסי בן דוסתאי כיון דצריך קומץ בבוקר וקומץ בערב לא שייך לאיכפולי טפי משיעור שלם דלרבנן הוא דבעי אי בעינן שלם בלבונה כי היכי דבעינן שלם בעשרון אבל משמן בעי (טפי) לאבא יוסי בן דוסתאי נמי דבכל יום לא היה רק לוג ומחצה בבוקר וכן בערב והשתא נמי או דילמא לכל עשרון היו ג׳ לוגין וזו היא בלילתן:

וְשֶׁמֶן בֵּין לְאַבָּא יוֹסֵי בֶּן דּוֹסְתַּאי וּבֵין לְרַבָּנַן, מַהוּ?

And furthermore, what is the halakha concerning the oil of the griddle-cake offering in a case where the High Priest died and was not yet replaced, both according to Abba Yosei ben Dostai and according to the Rabbis? Is the required amount three log, as it is when the High Priest brings the griddle-cake offering, or is the amount of oil doubled just as the amount of fine flour is doubled?

RASHI

ושמן מבעיא ליה אליבא דכולהו אם צריך להביא ג׳ לוגין לכל עשרון דעד שלא ימות היה מביא ג׳ לוגין וחוצן לוג ומחצה לחצי עשרון דשחר ולוג ומחצה לבין הערבים השתא מאי:

אֲמַר רָבָא, תָּא שְׁמַע: ״חֲמִשָּׁה קְמָצִין הֵן״, וְאִם אִיתָא – זִימְנִין דְּמַשְׁכַּחַתְּ לָהּ שִׁבְעָה!

Rava said: Come and hear a resolution to the dilemma concerning the quantity of frankincense that is brought in this case, based upon a mishna (106b): There are five halakhot pertaining to a handful. The halakha of the frankincense sacrificed with the griddle-cake offering of the High Priest is not included in this number, because only half a handful of frankincense is sacrificed at one time. And if it is so that when there is no High Priest a complete handful is brought in the morning and in the afternoon, then sometimes you find that there are seven halakhot pertaining to a handful.

RASHI

ה׳ קמצין הן בפרק האומר הרי עלי עשרון (לקמן מנחות דף קו:) חשיב והאי קומץ לבונה של חביתין לא חשיב התם משום דלחצאין קרב ובשלימה קמיירי ולא בחצאין ואם איתא דכי מת כ״ג קרבו שלם בכל הקטרות זימנין דמשכחת [שבעה] כגון ב׳ קמצים של חביתין דהא התם קא חשיב ב׳ קמצים של בזיכי לחם הפנים אע״ג דחד קרבן נינהו וה״נ ליחשוב: ומשני לעולם אימא לך דהוכפל והאי דלא חשיב להו משום דאי מת כהן לא קתני אלא בקריבים כדרכן קא מיירי:

״דְּאִי״ – לָא קָתָנֵי. יָתֵיב רַב פַּפָּא וְקָאָמַר לָהּ לְהָא שְׁמַעֲתָא. אֲמַר לֵיהּ רַב יוֹסֵף בַּר שְׁמַעֲיָה לְרַב פַּפָּא: וְהָא ״מַעֲלֶה קוֹמֶץ בַּחוּץ״, ״דְּאִי״ הֲוָה, וְקָתָנֵי!

The Gemara rejects this proof: The tanna does not teach cases of what if the High Priest died, and is speaking only about a typical case. The Gemara relates that Rav Pappa was sitting and teaching this halakha. Rav Yosef bar Shemaya said to Rav Pappa: But the mishna does list the case of one who intentionally offers up the handful from a meal offering outside the Temple courtyard, who is liable to receive karet. This is not a standard case but rather a case of what if, and nevertheless it is taught in the mishna. Accordingly, Rava’s proof is valid.

RASHI

להא שמעתא דאי לא קתני:

והא מעלה קומץ בחוץ דקתני ליה התם גבי ה׳ קמצין דאי עבר והעלהו בחוץ חייב וקתני ליה נמי ש״מ דאם איתא דהוכפל ליתנינהו ואפילו דאי:

מַאי הָוֵי עֲלָהּ? אֲמַר רַב נַחְמָן בַּר יִצְחָק: תָּא שְׁמַע, דְּתַנְיָא: כֹּהֵן גָּדוֹל שֶׁמֵּת וְלֹא מִינּוּ אַחֵר תַּחְתָּיו – שְׁלֵימָה שַׁחֲרִית וּשְׁלֵימָה בֵּין הָעַרְבַּיִם. וּמַפְרִישׁ לָהּ שְׁנֵי קְמָצִין – קוֹמֶץ שַׁחֲרִית וְקוֹמֶץ בֵּין הָעַרְבַּיִם. וּמַפְרִישׁ לָהּ שְׁלֹשֶׁת לוּגִּין – לוֹג וּמֶחֱצָה שַׁחֲרִית לוֹג וּמֶחֱצָה בֵּין הָעַרְבַּיִם.

The Gemara asks: What conclusion was reached about this matter? Rav Naḥman bar Yitzḥak said: Come and hear a resolution, as it is taught in a baraita: In the case of a High Priest who died and they did not yet appoint another in his stead, a complete tenth of an ephah of fine flour is brought for the griddle-cake offering in the morning and another complete tenth of an ephah is brought in the afternoon. And one separates two handfuls of frankincense for it, and sacrifices one handful with the morning offering and one handful with the afternoon offering. And one separates three log of oil for it, and brings a log and a half with the morning offering and a log and a half with the afternoon offering.

RASHI

מאי הוי עלה דהא לא תנינן ליה בהדיא:

מַנִּי? אִילֵימָא רַבָּנַן – מַאי שְׁנָא לְבוֹנָתָהּ דְּהוּכְפְּלָה, וּמַאי שְׁנָא שַׁמְנָהּ דְּלָא הוּכְפְּלָה?

The Gemara asks: In accordance with whose opinion is this baraita? If we say that it is in accordance with the opinion of the Rabbis, what is different about its frankincense such that it is doubled in the case where the High Priest died, and what is different about its oil such that it is not doubled?

אֶלָּא אַבָּא יוֹסֵי בֶּן דּוֹסְתַּאי הִיא, דַּאֲמַר: חֲבִיתֵּי כֹהֵן גָּדוֹל בְּעָלְמָא שְׁנֵי קְמָצִין בָּעֲיָא, וּלְבוֹנָה לֹא הוּכְפְּלָה וְשֶׁמֶן לֹא הוּכְפַּל.

Rather, the baraita is in accordance with the opinion of Abba Yosei ben Dostai, who said: The griddle-cake offering of the High Priest generally requires two handfuls. And therefore when the baraita requires two handfuls of frankincense in the case where the High Priest died and another has not yet been appointed, the frankincense is not being doubled and the oil is also not doubled. Therefore, three log of oil are required, as usual.

RASHI

אלא אבא יוסי דאמר חביתין דעלמא נמי בחיי כהן בעי ב׳ קמצין הילכך הא נמי ב׳ קמצין וקתני לוג ומחצה שחרית כו׳ אלמא שמן לא הוכפל ואיפשיטא בעיא דשמן לאבא יוסי ומדשמן לאבא יוסי לא הוכפל דמאי דלא גלי לא גלי לרבנן נמי לבונה ושמן לא הוכפלו דמאי דלא גלי לא גלי דאינהו לא פליגי אלא בלבונה מחיים אבל בלאחר מיתה אי הוכפל אי לא הוכפל לא פליגי:

וּמִדְּשֶׁמֶן לְאַבָּא יוֹסֵי בֶּן דּוֹסְתַּאי לֹא הוּכְפְּלָה, לְבוֹנָתָהּ וְשַׁמְנָהּ לְרַבָּנַן נַמִי לֹא הוּכְפְּלוּ.

And from the fact that according to Abba Yosei ben Dostai the requisite oil is not doubled, one can conclude that also according to the Rabbis its frankincense and its oil are not doubled.

אָמַר רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן: הֲלָכָה כְּאַבָּא יוֹסֵי בֶּן דּוֹסְתַּאי. וּמִי אֲמַר רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן הָכִי? וְהָא אָמַר רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן: הֲלָכָה כִּסְתַם מִשְׁנָה, וּתְנַן: חֲמִשָּׁה קְמָצִין הֵן!

This discussion in the Gemara began with Rabbi Yoḥanan presenting the dispute between Abba Yosei ben Dostai and the Rabbis, and it concludes with his ruling concerning their dispute. Rabbi Yoḥanan says: The halakha is in accordance with the opinion of Abba Yosei ben Dostai. The Gemara asks: And did Rabbi Yoḥanan actually say this? But doesn’t Rabbi Yoḥanan state a principle that the halakha is in accordance with the ruling of an unattributed mishna, and we learned in the unattributed mishna cited earlier: There are only five halakhot pertaining to a handful. Since the mishna does not list the fact that a handful of frankincense is offered twice daily with the griddle-cake offering, how can Rabbi Yoḥanan accept that opinion?

RASHI

הילכתא כאבא יוסי דאמר בחיי כהן מקריב קומץ לבונה שחרית וקומץ ערבית:

ותנן ה׳ קמצין הן ולא חשיב ליה לקומץ דחביתין משום דלחצאין קרב ואם איתא דקרב שלם ליתני ז׳ קמצים הן:

TOSAFOT

הלכה כאבא יוסי בן דוסתאי תימה הילכתא למשיחא:

אֲמוֹרָאֵי נִינְהוּ, וְאַלִּיבָּא דְּרַבִּי יוֹחָנָן. הדרן עלך התכלת

The Gemara answers: They are different amora’im, and they disagree with regard to the opinion of Rabbi Yoḥanan. One said that Rabbi Yoḥanan rules in accordance with Abba Yosei ben Dostai, and one said that according to Rabbi Yoḥanan the halakha is always in accordance with an unattributed mishna.

RASHI

אמוראי נינהו מר אמר כסתם משנה אמר רבי יוחנן ומר אמר הלכה כאבא יוסי אמר רבי יוחנן:

SUMMARY

This chapter discussed mitzvot and offerings with regard to which the failure to fulfill one component does not prevent one from fulfilling another component. The beginning of the chapter dealt with the white and sky-blue strings of ritual fringes. The mishna explains that each of these two components can be fulfilled independently, and if one does not have sky-blue strings he can still fulfill the mitzva of wearing white strings. The Gemara then expanded the discussion to address in depth the topic of sky-blue wool. This discussion included clarification of how the sky-blue dye is produced and how the sky-blue strings are tied onto a garment. The Gemara also engaged in a more general discussion concerning ritual fringes, including the relationship between the corners of the garment and the strings, as well as the size and other characteristics that determine whether a garment is required to have ritual fringes. The Gemara also cited homiletical expositions emphasizing the importance of the mitzva and its meaning. This chapter contains the primary discussion of the mitzva of ritual fringes in the Talmud, and serves as the source for most of the halakhot of ritual fringes. The chapter then discussed various offerings that are interconnected, and clarified when the lack of one prevents the sacrifice of the other and when it does not. In many instances, one may sacrifice an offering even though one is not able to sacrifice a related offering. This is true not only of different offerings brought on the same day, e.g., the daily offerings and the additional offerings, but even of components of the same offering. It is possible to sacrifice one of the animals required for the additional offering if the others are not available. There are some additional offerings where each individual component prevents the fulfillment of the mitzva with the others. This is true of the additional offerings of Sukkot and the offerings of Shavuot mentioned in Leviticus, chapter 23. This chapter also contained an extensive discussion of the two loaves of Shavuot and the communal peace offering of two sheep that accompanies them. The Gemara explores the question of their interdependence and the nature of their relationship. The daily offering, the incense, and the griddle-cake offering of the High Priest are all sacrificed in two halves, half in the morning and half in the afternoon. In all these cases, if the morning offering was not sacrificed, the afternoon offering may still be sacrificed. An exception to this is the case where the service of a new altar had not yet been initiated, as it must be initiated by means of the daily offering of the morning. There is a unique requirement in the case of the griddle-cake offering of the High Priest, which is that he must bring the entire offering at one time and then divide it in half. Therefore, if the High Priest sacrificed the morning component of his griddle-cake offering, and he then died and a replacement was appointed, the new High Priest must bring another complete offering in the afternoon and sacrifice half of it. The Gemara tangentially delved into the topic of this unusual offering, which, on the one hand, is an offering incumbent on an individual, the High Priest, and on the other hand is part of the fixed communal Temple service. These were the main topics discussed in this chapter. Other topics that were discussed tangentially include the apparent contradictions between the verses in Ezekiel and the Torah concerning the Temple service; whether the court instructs people to sin in order to achieve a greater religious gain; and priorities among offerings depending on their relative sanctity and frequency.

INTRO

Tractate Menaḥot discusses the halakhot of various offerings, specifically those that are brought from grain, i.e., wheat or barley, as well as the libations of oil and wine sacrificed in the Temple. Menaḥot therefore complements tractate Zevaḥim, which examines the halakhot of offerings brought from livestock or birds, and there are many parallels between the two tractates. Just as there are various types of animal and bird offerings, so too, there are several types of meal offerings: Voluntary meal offerings, obligatory meal offerings, meal offerings brought as atonement for a transgression, individual meal offerings, and communal meal offerings. Similarly, just like animal offerings, there are portions of the meal offerings that are burned on the altar and other portions consumed by the priests. But whereas animal offerings are divided into two categories: Offerings of lesser sanctity and offerings of the most sacred order, all meal offerings are classified as offerings of the most sacred order. Accordingly, their consumption is permitted only to male members of the priesthood, and they may be eaten only inside the Temple courtyard. Perhaps most importantly, the four sacrificial rites performed during the service of a meal offering parallel the four rites performed with an animal offering. In other words, the removal of a handful from the meal offering, the sanctification of that handful in a service vessel, its conveyance to the altar, and the burning of the handful on the altar parallel, respectively, the slaughter of an animal offering, the collection of its blood, the conveyance of that blood to the altar, and the presentation of the blood on the altar. Additionally, just as the presentation of the blood of an offering renders the remainder of that offering permitted for consumption by the priests or for sacrifice on the altar, so too, the burning of the handful on the altar renders the remainder of the meal offering permitted to the priests for consumption. Furthermore, just as the improper performance of one of the rites of an animal offering, or improper intent during one of these rites, disqualifies the offering, so too, meal offerings are disqualified through improper performance of one of their rites or improper intent during one of them. There are also certain differences between meal offerings and animal offerings. Whereas an animal offering is fit for slaughter in its natural state, a meal offering must be prepared before it can be brought as an offering. Additionally, an animal offering is a single body, i.e., the animal itself, whereas a meal offering comprises several elements, namely, the flour, oil, and frankincense. Together, tractates Zevaḥim and Menaḥot provide an extensive analysis of the sacrificial rites of all offerings sacrificed in the Temple. It is worth noting that the latter part of Menaḥot deals with halakhot applying to all sacrificial offerings. The tractate also concludes with a celebrated general statement: It is written with regard to an animal burnt offering: “An offering made by fire, of a pleasing aroma” (Leviticus 1:9), and with regard to a bird burnt offering: “An offering made by fire, of a pleasing aroma” (Leviticus 1:17), and also with regard to a meal offering: “An offering made by fire, of a pleasing aroma” (Leviticus 2:2). This teaches that one who brings an expensive offering and one who brings a less expensive offering are equal before God, provided that they direct their hearts toward Heaven. There are many ways to categorize the various types of meal offerings. One can distinguish between meal offerings that are voluntary, those that are obligatory, and those that are brought as atonement for a transgression. One can also differentiate between individual meal offerings and communal ones, or between meal offerings that are brought as independent offerings and those that are brought in conjunction with slaughtered offerings. Furthermore, one can distinguish between meal offerings based on their contents, as some are brought from wheat while others are brought from barley, and some contain oil and frankincense, whereas others contain only one of these ingredients or even neither. Meal offerings can also be classified by the manner of their preparation: Some are sacrificed as a raw mixture of flour and oil, while others are baked or fried before they are sacrificed. Of these, most meal offerings are baked or fried to form unleavened bread, while a minority of them are prepared as leavened bread. Additionally, most meal offerings undergo the sacrificial rite of the removal of a handful, which is the only part of the offering that is sacrificed upon the altar. Some meal offerings are burned in their entirety upon the altar without the removal of a handful. In total, there are fifteen different types of meal offerings: Eleven are meal offerings brought by an individual, three are communal offerings, and the last includes all meal offerings that accompany the libations brought with slaughtered offerings. With regard to this last type, there is no distinction between the individual and the community. Of the eleven types of individual meal offerings, five are voluntary offerings, described in the Torah according to their manner of preparation (see Leviticus 2:1–10): A meal offering of flour, a meal offering of loaves, a meal offering of wafers, a meal offering prepared in a pan, and a meal offering prepared in a deep pan. The remaining six are the meal offering of a sinner, brought by one who is obligated to bring a sliding-scale offering and cannot afford to bring an animal or bird (see Leviticus 5:11–13); the meal offering of jealousy, brought by a sota (see Numbers 5:25); the inaugural meal offering, brought by all priests when they begin their service in the Temple (see Leviticus 6:13); the griddle-cake offering of the High Priest, brought daily by the High Priest, half of which is sacrificed in the morning and the other half of which is sacrificed in the afternoon (see Leviticus 6:15); the loaves brought with a thanks offering (see Leviticus 7:12–14); and the loaves of a nazirite, sacrificed by a nazirite together with the offerings he must bring at the completion of his naziriteship (see Numbers 6:14). There are three types of communal meal offerings: The omer meal offering (see Leviticus 23:10–11), the two loaves of bread brought on Shavuot (see Leviticus 23:17), and the shewbread, placed every Shabbat on the Table inside the Sanctuary (see Leviticus 24:5–8). The halakhot of the bread sacrificed with the inaugural ram offerings brought by Aaron and his sons when they were anointed as priests (see Leviticus, chapter 8) are also discussed in this tractate. Tractate Menaḥot also contains halakhic deliberations concerning topics not directly related to meal offerings, which are nevertheless examined at length due to their mention in the mishnayot. In fact, the overwhelming majority of halakhot and aggadic literature pertaining to the mitzvot of ritual fringes, phylacteries, and mezuza are found in Menaḥot. There are additional discussions relating to these topics dispersed throughout the rest of the Talmud, but the main analyses of the commentaries and rabbinic authorities on these topics are based on the passages in this tractate. In all, tractate Menaḥot has thirteen chapters, the final nine of which appear in this volume. Some chapters focus on a single topic, while others deal with multiple issues. Chapter Five describes the methods of preparation of the various types of meal offerings. Chapter Six extensively analyzes the halakhot pertaining to the omer meal offering. The chapter discusses the proper manner of harvesting and preparing the grain used for the omer as well as the permissibility of consuming the new crop after the sacrifice of the omer meal offering. The Gemara also cites many of the Sages’ proofs that the omer must be sacrificed on the sixteenth of Nisan. Some halakhot relating to the two loaves of bread sacrificed from the new crop on Shavuot are examined as well. Chapter Seven continues the discussion with regard to the preparation and sacrifice of the various meal offerings. Chapter Eight addresses the various halakhot of the thanks offering. The topics discussed include the different types of bread, i.e., meal offerings, brought with the thanks offerings, as well as the relationship between the thanks offering, which is a slaughtered animal, and the loaves sacrificed with it, e.g., if and when a disqualification occurring with regard to one of them disqualifies the other. The halakhot of the offspring of a thanks offering and the substitute of a thanks offering are dealt with here as well. Chapter Nine describes the optimal locations from which grain should be harvested for use in communal meal offerings, as well as the locations producing the best oil and wine. The methods for producing the best crop are also listed here, as well as those instances in which only the very finest produce would be used for an offering. Chapter Ten addresses many topics, including which vessels were used for measuring and the manner of taking proper measurements, the responsibility of those providing the materials for offerings, and some of the halakhot of the requirement to place one’s hands upon an offering before its slaughter. Chapter Eleven discusses in part the two loaves of bread that were prepared from the new crop and sacrificed on Shavuot. The majority of the chapter concerns the shewbread, from the manner of its preparation to its consumption by the priests. Chapter Twelve presents as its central topic the halakhot pertaining to the redemption of all items of sanctity, and the details of the consecration of meal offerings. Finally, Chapter Thirteen discusses those terminologies that can be used to effect a vow, and sets guidelines for their interpretation and the obligations they incur.

מתני׳ כָּל הַמְּנָחוֹת בָּאוֹת מַצָּה, חוּץ מֵחָמֵץ שֶׁבַּתּוֹדָה וּשְׁתֵּי הַלֶּחֶם, שֶׁהֵן בָּאוֹת חָמֵץ.

All the meal offerings come to be offered as matza, with care taken to prevent leavening, except for ten loaves of leavened bread among the forty loaves that accompany the thanks offering, and the meal offering of the two loaves that are brought on the festival of Shavuot, as they come to be offered as leavened bread.

רַבִּי מֵאִיר אוֹמֵר: הַשְּׂאוֹר בּוֹדֶה לָהֶן מִתּוֹכָן וּמְחַמְּצָן.

The Sages disagree as to the manner in which those meal offerings are leavened. Rabbi Meir says: With regard to the leaven added to the dough to facilitate leavening, one separates [bodeh] part of the flour for the meal offerings from within the flour of the meal offerings themselves, causes it to become leaven, and leavens the meal offerings with it.

RASHI

מתני׳ כל המנחות:

חוץ מחמץ שבתורה דכתיב על חלות לחם חמץ וגו׳ (ויקרא ז׳:י״ג) ושתי הלחם דכתיב חמץ תאפינה (שם כג):

TOSAFOT

מתני׳ כל המנחות באות מצה חוץ מחמץ שבתודה ושתי הלחם שתי הלחם ניחא דכייל בהדי שאר מנחות דאיקרי מנחה כדאמר בפרק התכלת (לעיל מנחות דף מז:) אבל לחמי תודה לא אשכחן ומ״מ ניחא לאשמועינן דינא:

רַבִּי יְהוּדָה אוֹמֵר: אַף הִיא אֵינָהּ מִן הַמּוּבְחָר, אֶלָּא מֵבִיא אֶת הַשְּׂאוֹר, וְנוֹתְנוֹ לְתוֹךְ הַמִּדָּה וּמְמַלֵּא אֶת הַמִּדָּה. אָמְרוּ לוֹ: אַף הִיא הָיְתָה חֲסֵרָה אוֹ יְתֵרָה.

Rabbi Yehuda says: That is also not the optimal manner in which to fulfill the mitzva, as aged leaven is a more effective leavening agent. Rather, one brings the leaven from another, aged, dough and places it into the measuring vessel, and then he adds flour until he fills the measuring vessel, to ensure the appropriate measure of a tenth of an ephah of flour. The Rabbis said to Rabbi Yehuda: That too is inappropriate, as in that manner the meal offering will either be lacking the requisite measure or be greater than the required measure, as the Gemara will explain.

RASHI

שאור בודה להן מתוכו מתוך עשרון דתודה ושתי הלחם היה מוציא שאור שהוא לש מן הסלת מעט לאחר שנמדד וטומנו בסלת ומתחמץ מאיליו וממנו מחמץ את השאר:

TOSAFOT

בודה בדל״ת גרסינן בערוך ופי׳ לשון הוצאה כמו (מלכים א י״ב:ל״ג) בחודש אשר בדא מלבו (נחמיה ו׳:ח׳) כי מלבך אתה בודאם:

גמ׳ בְּעָא מִינֵּיהּ רַבִּי פְּרִידָא מֵרַבִּי אַמִי: מִנַּיִן לְכָל הַמְּנָחוֹת שֶׁהֵן בָּאוֹת מַצָּה? מְנָלַן? דִּכְתִיב בָּהּ – כְּתִיב בָּהּ, דְּלָא כְּתִיב בָּהּ – כְּתִיב בָּהּ:

Rabbi Perida raised a dilemma before Rabbi Ami: From where is it derived with regard to all the meal offerings that they come to be offered as matza? Rabbi Ami was puzzled by this question, and replied: What do you mean when you say: From where do we derive this? Concerning every meal offering with regard to which it is written explicitly in the Torah that it comes as matza, it is written with regard to it, and therefore the dilemma does not arise. And concerning any meal offering where it is not written explicitly with regard to it that it must be matza, nevertheless it is written with regard to it:

RASHI

אף היא אינה מן המובחר שאינה מחמצת יפה לפי שאין לה שאור מחומץ יפה:

אלא מביא שאור המחומץ יפה מתוך ביתו ונותן לתוך העשרון ומוסיף וממלא סלת:

אף היא היתה יתרה או חסרה כגון אם השאור עבה ומגובל בקושי במעט מים אינו מחזיק נפח גדול כאילו היה קמח ונמצא העשרון יתר לפי שאם לא היה שאור מגובל היה נפחו גדול מעכשיו ואם אינו מגובל יפה שנתן בו מים הרבה נמצא נפחו גדול משאילו היה קמח ונמצא העשרון חסר שאם לא בשביל המים לא היה מלא:

TOSAFOT

חסרה או יתרה מכאן פי׳ הרב רבינו חיים דכשמודדין במדה בפסח או לצורך חלה אין להכביד על הסלת דא״כ נמצאת יתרה כמו לענין מנחות ועוד אמרינן לקמן (מנחות דף פז.) גודשא תילתא: